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Postby Ido » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:42 pm

bert stoltenborg wrote:Fuji has announced the F30, so you should be able to pick up the F10 or even f11 for a bargain these times.


yea, and I even prefer a proven product over a new one,
but so far I can't find a local retailer who supplies them. only other fuji models. and hundreds of canons that all look the same but have different names (WTF for? $?).
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Postby andrebrito » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:12 pm

IDO, the S30 is an excellent camera, but it has a stupid problem.. its video capabilities are reduced to  movies of 30 s only... this is a problem that can be fixed (not hardware related) but I think Canon did not release a firmware to correct this
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Postby Ido » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:21 pm

andrebrito wrote:IDO, the S30 is an excellent camera, but it has a stupid problem.. its video capabilities are reduced to  movies of 30 s only... this is a problem that can be fixed (not hardware related) but I think Canon did not release a firmware to correct this


hey Andre, you still drunk  :wink: ? you write pretty good for a drunk man.
that problem is indeed very stupid and unnecessary (my elderly and very basic kodak does unlimited video), but i checked, and some of  the newer canon models have unlimited video time.
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Postby Ido » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:55 pm

fellas,
i never took the ISO thing seriously in digital untill you guys mentioned it (i thought it was a gimick):
does the digital sensory really work on the film-sensitivity principle?
as in, is there is digital also a compromise between "exposure" and detail/graininess"?

also, in digital, when it gives the shutter/aperature values, are they indeed equivalent to optical SLR's?
f.e.: below 125 - 60 shutter speed  one will get less stable pics etc.?

here's my recent ride.
it's mint/new, it isn't fast, but it has a rumble seat.  !.

btw, I use stephen's idea of putting a finger on the flash, it's got a lot of potential. thanks howler. i'm perfecting it.
most my pics are inside. i will play with the iso thing too.
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:05 pm

Ido wrote:fellas,
i never took the ISO thing seriously in digital untill you guys mentioned it (i thought it was a gimick):
does the digital sensory really work on the film-sensitivity principle?
as in, is there is digital also a compromise between "exposure" and detail/graininess"?

also, in digital, when it gives the shutter/aperature values, are they indeed equivalent to optical SLR's?
f.e.: below 125 - 60 shutter speed  one will get less stable pics etc.?

here's my recent ride.
it's mint/new, it isn't fast, but it has a rumble seat.  !.

btw, I use stephen's idea of putting a finger on the flash, it's got a lot of potential. thanks howler. i'm perfecting it.
most my pics are inside. i will play with the iso thing too.


Yes, big bro.

Iso is the equivalent.
Higer ISO means you can use faster shutter time in dark situations.
These fuji f10/f11, and seemingly the f30, have very clean, noiseless high ISO-capabilities.
evry doubling of ISO will give 2 the shutterspeed (they call it "stop").

They get close to expensive digtal SLR's, philip has a Canon EOS 350, and he's amazed how close this F10 get to his expensive DSLR with F 1.4  prime lens.

Don't expect miracles, but the F10 has less noise at ISO 800 than some other point and shooters at ISO 200.
And the lens is good.
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Postby Zaphod » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:39 pm

Nice shot, bert.  :D

Anyone has absorption coefficient for that?  :mrgreen:

PS
As a completion to a very good day ( :bang ), i discovered
that my camera (yesterday fell out of my pocket) has half
the display completely gone.
:bang   :bang   :bang
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Postby Ido » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:54 pm

is hommel = bee?
is hommel = hover?

lovely shot president.
the horse shot was a beauty too.
macro?
how do you get such resolution even after you downsize to ~ 600 pixel?

tommorow i'll try & shoot  a local hommel. very different.
btw, i was thinking, how about whoever wants we do simeltaineious ( :D ) shots across the globe.
bee, koel, i was thinking of the next full moon. how people drink their coffee  :wink:  etc.
zaf, you can just go down the street and shoot anything.
then there is the local women thing (eric will kill me for this).
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Postby J.F.Oros » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:58 pm

Ido wrote:btw, i was thinking, how about whoever wants we do simeltaineious ( :D ) shots across the globe.
bee, koel, i was thinking of the next full moon. how people drink their coffee  :wink:  etc.
zaf, you can just go down the street and shoot anything.
then there is the local women thing (eric will kill me for this).

Excellent ideea Ido !  :D
No hommel around here now, but what about this :
(imagine what's happening at my place all the day long, they are all male-cats ; in some countries I could be arrested for this picture  :mrgreen: )
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Postby Zaphod » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:59 pm

Let some other days go plain wrong as  the latest,
and you'll see me running in the streets shooting
anything  :mrgreen:   :mrgreen:   :mrgreen:
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Postby Ido » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:48 pm

so flav (hug  :D !  :wink: ), did you get yourself a camera?
how about a pic of the Romanian countryside?
oh, zaf needs cheering up. you da man.
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Postby Ido » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:09 pm

for anyone interested in old series:

http://television.aol.com/in2tv

it has kung fu !
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:24 am

Ido wrote:is hommel = bee?
is hommel = hover?

lovely shot president.
the horse shot was a beauty too.
macro?
how do you get such resolution even after you downsize to ~ 600 pixel?

tommorow i'll try & shoot  a local hommel. very different.
btw, i was thinking, how about whoever wants we do simeltaineious ( :D ) shots across the globe.
bee, koel, i was thinking of the next full moon. how people drink their coffee  :wink:  etc.
zaf, you can just go down the street and shoot anything.
then there is the local women thing (eric will kill me for this).


Hommel = bumbelbee

And now I'm a but drunk.
We played at a club, kind of jamsession, fusion, lots of echo and phasers on the guitars and playing in 1 chord
:D

And then 4 episodes of Family  Guy.



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Postby J.F.Oros » Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:38 pm

Ido wrote:so flav (hug  :D !  :wink: ), did you get yourself a camera?
Yeah, I finally managed to get the Canon PowerShot A520 I talked about some time ago. It seems pretty good for a first time digi-camera : 4Mpix, 4x optical zoom, 2 AA battery/accumulator powering, 320x240 video, etc. I got it for aprox. 220 euros (with 2x AA 2500mAh accus and a 512MB SD card).
The option to set manually all the parameters is a big plus for when I'll decide to quit being lazzy, switch from all-auto, and do some "serious" photography  :D

how about a pic of the Romanian countryside?
oh, zaf needs cheering up. you da man.
Well, I'm afraid that for now all I can show Zaph is this view from my soon-in-EU-but-still-recovering-from-comunism-glory-Romanian-tipical-apartment-block-balcony.

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The photo is two weeks old, if I send you the actual look of the trees I'm afraid Z will have a break-down depression.
But wait a few weeks untill they will sprout, and you'll see all the fresh green being extraordinary envigorating.
Hang on Zaph !
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Postby J.F.Oros » Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:52 pm

Hey Bert,
That hommel image kinda fits you : one lazzy but flower power style hippie, nice looking and apparently inofensive, but with a painful sting when someone messes with him  :mrgreen:
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:39 pm

Hommels kick ass!
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Postby Zaphod » Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:47 pm

Many thanks to all you cheerful people.  :D

Here's one of my favorite sights  :mrgreen:
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Postby Ido » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:48 pm

zaf: home made? looks great.

flav: luv the pic. still have snow? here it's fully spring, including slight heat wave.
in the bottom left part of the pic, above the fiat punto, is that the romanian "delta" (take off on renault 12)?
don't worry man, i realize you might not necessarily know what i'm talking of..

oh, this:
..now all I can show Zaph is this view from my soon-in-EU-but-still-recovering-from-comunism-glory-Romanian-tipical-apartment-block-balcony.


we ain't former commies and trust me we get them even uglier  :mrgreen:
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Postby Ido » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:13 pm

for flav: just went outside shot you some cats  :D
btw, i started this thread and its all ot, so you guys are welcome to do anything..
shit, outa beer again. i was also outa beer last night. how unefficient can one get.
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Postby J.F.Oros » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:36 pm

Ido wrote:flav: luv the pic. still have snow? here it's fully spring, including slight heat wave.
in the bottom left part of the pic, above the fiat punto, is that the romanian "delta" (take off on renault 12)?
don't worry man, i realize you might not necessarily know what i'm talking of..
Yes it's the romanian "traditional" Dacia car  :D
I'm not good at cars, but just found this history of Dacia on net :
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/4582/dacia.htm


Thanks for the cats shots, they are so lucky they can play outside in "freedom". Mine I have to keep them only inside (because I live at 3rd floor), and they get bored prety quick.

Regarding the next picture, the funny thing is that only after I took it and put it on my PC I realized why the cats were not standing on the chair. Shame on them, it was only a toy mouse !  :D

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Postby Scott R. Foster » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:24 pm

Here are some back yards pics taken with a one of these:

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