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Postby J.F.Oros » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:21 pm

Scott R. Foster wrote:Flaviu:

What is the name of the mountain range to the Northeast?

It's called the Meses (pronounced like Mesesh) mountain  :)
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Postby Ido » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:39 pm

bert stoltenborg wrote:Hey Ido,

That painting has some strange qualities, I keep looking at it.

:mrgreen:


thank you brother.
actually there is something there, even a thought/creative process (which for me usually destroys the art  :twisted: ).
i'll post the basis for it later  :D , if it interests you. has to do with photography as well.
in truth, it's important to me, that little work.

bert stoltenborg wrote:Maybe you should expose in Het Stedelijk in Amsterdam?


i don't know what the stedelijk is, but i'd like nothing better   :D  :mrgreen:  :wink:
wait, expose what   :D ?
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Postby Ido » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:33 pm

todays spring pics...
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Postby Ido » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:37 pm

more..
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this is to show the typical "forrest".
today I heard not only "reverb"
but also "flutter". I'm serious :).
it is understandable though cause of the terrain :"), which you can't see all of it here.
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Postby David French » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:10 pm

RE: your comment on b7.jpg, it reminds me of Audioease's Altiverb.  They have samplet several forests for convolution reverb.
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Postby Ido » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:01 pm

David French wrote:RE: your comment on b7.jpg, it reminds me of Audioease's Altiverb.  They have samplet several forests for convolution reverb.


that's interesting. what does convolution reverb mean?
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:54 pm

A reverb that uses measured impulse responses from real rooms. These impulses contain all relevant room information, including reverb. The Altiverb convolutes this reverb with recorded music, so you can make it sound like it was recorded in Boston Symphony Hall or Scott's Backyard.

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Postby bert stoltenborg » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:56 pm

Dammit!
Even when we're OT we go OT! :bang
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Postby David French » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:02 pm

Convolution is a process by which the impulse response of one system, be it gear, a room, or whatever, is applied to another sound.  It takes each sample of the audio which you want to apply the impulse to and replaces it with an amplitude scaled copy of the impulse response you are using.  Basically, this makes your original signal sound as though it were being played through whatever system you have an impule response for.  This process is amazingly powerful since it allows us to realistically recreate any system we can measure, be it a great concert hall, a classic audio processor, or whatever you can imagine.  It can also be used more creatively by convolving with other audio files that are not impule responses.  In this way you can create hybrid sounds that are somewhat like playing one audio file through another one, essentially turning an audio file, of anything at all, into a sound processor.
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Postby J.F.Oros » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:48 pm

bert stoltenborg wrote:Dammit!
Even when we're OT we go OT! :bang
It's an OT convoluted with the impulse response of another OT  :mrgreen:
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Postby Ido » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:15 pm

gotcha, it's the program with the neat pictures of the relevant spaces.
prolly Ram has it. I have to look up the outside/forrest stuff.
btw, does the famed lexicon work on the same principle?
can one hear differences (as in varying quality) between such different types of effects?
I'm real curious if in blindfold tests one would distinguish between these diffrent tools and between THE REAL THING  :mrgreen:  :D .
we also know the "waves" guys who also go around sampling places.

i think Bert meant that we always do an "opposite": when we have a dedicated OT thread, naturally we end up On Topic  :D .
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Postby J.F.Oros » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:23 pm

Ido wrote:we also know the "waves" guys who also go around sampling places.
They have one of those :
http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=1564

i think Bert meant that we always do an "opposite": when we have a dedicated OT thread, naturally we end up On Topic  :D .
So afterall we are good on something  :mrgreen:
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Postby David French » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:30 pm

Ido, check this for a demo of convolution vs the real thing.  Also, all of the stuff on this page is really cool.  In the first video, they take an orchestral recording done in an anechoic chamber and put it in the Concertgebouw.  Wow.

Also, Waves has a thing called Q-clone that is interesting.  It keeps spitting out the test signal to the gear that you have sitting next to you.  when you turn a knob or something, it regenerates the IR, so basically, you have a virtual piece of gear.  very neat stuff.
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Postby Ido » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:31 pm

J.F.Oros wrote:  So afterall we are good on something  :mrgreen:
..

you're a good man Flaviu  :D , I sometimes wonder if "we" are much good in anything  :twisted: .
[speak for yourself, Ido  :mrgreen: !]

just saw, thanks for the guidance, David (I'll check it out on more normal pc speakers).
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Postby J.F.Oros » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:00 pm

David French wrote:Also, Waves has a thing called Q-clone that is interesting.  It keeps spitting out the test signal to the gear that you have sitting next to you.  when you turn a knob or something, it regenerates the IR, so basically, you have a virtual piece of gear.  very neat stuff.
About 12-13 years ago, AT&T launched something more interesting, but at a much larger scale, the AT&T DISQ system. It was a digital mixer "in a box", controlled by a "scanned" analogue console, so you practically used an analog console as a control interface for a digital mixer (it's/was usually done the other way  :D)
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Postby David French » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:08 am

To get back to mere first order OT-ness, I'd like to share the new logo I did for RO.  Check it out:

http://recording.org/forums.html

I took that pic in the background, so it's still photography damnit.   :D
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:16 am

David French wrote:To get back to mere first order OT-ness, I'd like to share the new logo I did for RO.  Check it out:

http://recording.org/forums.html

I took that pic in the background, so it's still photography damnit.   :D


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Postby Bob » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 am

David French

[humor]

A relative ?

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Postby David French » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:23 am

Bob, please explain.  I don't get it.   :oops:
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Postby Bob » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:47 am

David:
It was a bit of a stretch.
You said you made a picture for RO, that wasn't really a photo, but involved photography.
Curious, I clicked on the link.
I was sure you probably meant you took this one
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but I had gone looking for something that wasn't photography any more.
The only other non-advertisement on the page was the one in the prior post.
Obviously a cartoon, but if you "took the pic" then you had to use a camera on something, so I asked, "A relative?"
Certainly a fun looking family member -- love the mustache.
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