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iRoom goes 'public beta'.

Postby jonessy » Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:40 pm

As discussed on a previous thread , I was writing a 'standalone' room mode calculator for my students.

This is now available as beta for everyone to download.

The programme is standalone for Windows-XP.
OSX and Windows-Mobile (PocketPC) versions will be available soon.

If your Windows is not regularly updated, the setup programme will prompt for you to download the .NET 2.0 Framework.
This is an official microsoft update, required for the programme to run.

The programme is FREEWARE, but doesn't have any documentation ready for now (this takes a ton of time to put together).

I would also like to thank Eric Desart, John C. Griggs, Bob Golds and everyone else who contributed, for their insight.
(Many of the programme's features ressemble Bob's online calculator).

Eric -
I included the copyrights paragraph as we discussed. Please let me know if this is satisfactory.

I'm still working on this programme and many new features are planned.
If you have any comments, ideas, bug-reports, please post in this thread.
Thank-you for Beta-Testing, everyone. :)

For people who do not want to (or are too lazy to) download and install the programme, here are a few screenshots:
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Postby David French » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:07 pm

There is something wrong with the zip archive... I could not extract it.

Looking forward to testing it out.  Looks pretty cool!
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Postby jonessy » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:19 pm

Thanks David.
I had a typo in the link.

It should work fine now (just tested it)...
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Postby David French » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:56 pm

So would it be too must trouble to include the English system of measurement for us poor fools that use it?
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Postby jonessy » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:20 pm

David French wrote:So would it be too must trouble to include the English system of measurement for us poor fools that use it?


Shouldn't be a problem to create an imperial version as well, if there's demand for it.
I'll need to transpose all of the equations, so this may take some time.
But for the time being, you can always convert...  :)
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Postby krasmuzik » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:28 pm

I cannot add it to my vast collection of freeware calculators - the .NET installer is not supported on XP64.
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Postby jonessy » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:17 pm

krasmuzik wrote:I cannot add it to my vast collection of freeware calculators - the .NET installer is not supported on XP64.


You and other x64 users can download this version.
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Postby Eric Desart » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:46 pm

David French wrote:So would it be too must trouble to include the English system of measurement for us poor fools that use it?


According to a survey taken by USMA many years ago, the only other countries that have not officially adopted the metric system are Liberia (in western Africa) and Burma (also known as Myanmar, in Southeast Asia).
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/internat.htm

:twisted:  David:  Admit you USers are either very very stubborn or very, very, very, very slow ......

Metric Act of 1866 — On 28 July 1866 the Metric Act of 1866, which legally recognized the metric system of measurement in the U.S., was enacted.
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/law ... c-act.html

Mendenhall Order — On 5 April 1893, the Mendenhall Order was issued, declaring the meter and kilogram to be the fundamental standards of length and mass in the U.S. and defining the inch-pound units in terms of the metric system.
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/law ... nhall.html

Metric Conversion Act of 1975 — On 23 December 1975 the Metric Conversion Act of 1975 was enacted.
Among other things, it designated the metric system as the preferred system of weights and measures for the U.S.
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/law ... -conv.html

General info: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/#metric-today
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:49 pm

I never trusted those imperial warriors.
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Postby David French » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:02 pm

I admit it, am ashamed of my country's desparate clinging to this moronic system.
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:12 pm

But still I love you
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Postby bert stoltenborg » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:13 pm

Goddammit, now Eric will think I'm stoned again.
:mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Postby David French » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:18 pm

:mrgreen:
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Postby Eric Desart » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:50 pm

bert stoltenborg wrote:Goddammit, now Eric will think I'm stoned again.
:mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

What do you mean with again?
When where you sober? Did I miss that???
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Postby Zaphod » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:02 pm

Hey, there is sobriety going on under my nose!  :bang

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Postby Scott R. Foster » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:05 pm

Mybe there is no need to alter the formulae.. just add a conversion box at the entry ponit so folks can pop feet and inches in - hit the button and metric numbers jump to the entry fields.
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Postby Eric Desart » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:21 pm

Scott,

I was indeed just teasing.

Jonessy,

It's even better that you DON'T make different editions, but just add a checkbox or radio buttons elegant at the top or wherever.

And internally versus this boolean parameter you just convert the entry data, leave the formulas as are, and show if necessary output in the reverse manner.
You don't need to convert all formulas.

When you're on the net you'll notice that you constant use different Unit systems through one another. I think metric but need to express myself imperial or get imperial input data.
If somebody speaks about a room of 2500 cft it only gets meaning/feeling to me after I converted it. And that's the same for US guys with our units.

I assume that conversion happens with double precision meaning floating numbers with >= 15 digits, hence any inaccuracy is insignificant.

You even could store standard in and output numbers (variables) defined by different units in both systems , hence depending on the checkbox one could call any of both.

Eric.
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Postby Eric Desart » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:55 pm

Jonessy,

Does that program ONLY works in XP, not Win NT, NOT Win 2000?

For me that's a problem.  I even can't try it out now.

The standard base system I'm working with is Win 2000 and that's for backward compatibitility reasons.
And for programming reasons I will not change that.

There are still a lot of people with older OS systems, and older CPUs and laptops.
XP is from somewhere 2002.
And a lot of students don't have the money to just change all that (and as a teacher you can hardly promote illegal software copies no?).

There are lots of programs that don't support NT anymore, few that leave Win 98 behind.
But the ones only working for XP is maybe 1% of the available Windows software.

Hence for me it's non-existing now.

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Postby jonessy » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:48 am

Eric (and other non-xp users):

Although I haven't tested it myself (I don't have non-xp machines), the programme should be 'backwards'-compatible as the .NET framework supports the following operating systems [taken from here]:
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Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 3; Windows 98; Windows 98 Second Edition; Windows ME; Windows Server 2003; Windows XP Service Pack 2


And a lot of students don't have the money to just change all that (and as a teacher you can hardly promote illegal software copies no?).

Around here, an academic license upgrade for XP Pro costs less than a good textbook.
Not to talk about universities than have licensing-agreements that allow distribution of software to students for academic purposes.
I never promote illegal copies, not as a teacher nor as an individual.
Luckily, I'm applicable for academic prices for software I use non-commercially.
Other software I use (such as "Visual Studio 2005" which was used to develop iRoom) was bought with hard-earned money.


Scott and Eric -
I will most definately add these conversion boxes.
This should be much easier than transposing all equations...
Thanks.  :)
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Postby SGarcia » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:01 am

Scott R. Foster wrote:Mybe there is no need to alter the formulae.. just add a conversion box at the entry ponit so folks can pop feet and inches in - hit the button and metric numbers jump to the entry fields.


Or download this wonderful piece of freeware that converts almost everything between metric and english.

Thanks to Mr. Josh Madison

Hope you like it.

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