From: jshort@t...
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 2:55 pm
Subject: Studio floor plans
I have been quielty monitoring the group for quite some time now...
collecting as much info as I can. I recently purchased a 2 acre lot & have
kept half of it wooded so that I can build a modest recording studio
"hidden" in the woods. I figure it will be about the size of a 2 car
garage (maybe slightly bigger/smaller), possibly with a room above that
will function as a "break area" with TV, couch, etc (Does that pose any
problems sound-wise). I am just now starting to do the design and was
wondering if anyone has some studio floor plans or knows of a good website
where I can look at plans. I have found a few websites, but would like to
see more. BTW, I play guitar, keyboards, & hope to take up drums soon...
so I would like to design my studio accordingly. Any help with the
location of "generic" plans or floor plan suggestions would be very helpful
& greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Jonathan
Studio floor plans
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From: "Aaron Cushing" <acushing@c...>
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
My story is quite similar (except I'm a drummer who'd like to learn guitar,
bass, & keys). I've got a program called Sierra Home Architect
http://www.sierrahome.com/software/catalog/homedesign/ that's easy to use,
and has been a great tool in designing the studio i'd like to build. The
software's only about sixty bucks, and can take a lot of guesswork out of
designing a space. Of course, it's meant for desiging a home, so it doesn't
give youi things like double-wall construction. but it will sure help with
your layout and conceptualization. It's way cheaper than back-and-forthing
with an architect.
<!-- aaron cushing -- digital media designer
http://www.crescentstudio.com -->
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
My story is quite similar (except I'm a drummer who'd like to learn guitar,
bass, & keys). I've got a program called Sierra Home Architect
http://www.sierrahome.com/software/catalog/homedesign/ that's easy to use,
and has been a great tool in designing the studio i'd like to build. The
software's only about sixty bucks, and can take a lot of guesswork out of
designing a space. Of course, it's meant for desiging a home, so it doesn't
give youi things like double-wall construction. but it will sure help with
your layout and conceptualization. It's way cheaper than back-and-forthing
with an architect.
<!-- aaron cushing -- digital media designer
http://www.crescentstudio.com -->
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From: steve <whitaker@p...>
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Studio floor plans
Hello,
>I have been quielty monitoring the group for quite some time now...
>collecting as much info as I can. I recently purchased a 2 acre lot & have
>kept half of it wooded so that I can build a modest recording studio
>"hidden" in the woods.
Nice!
> I figure it will be about the size of a 2 car
>garage (maybe slightly bigger/smaller), possibly with a room above that
>will function as a "break area" with TV, couch, etc (Does that pose any
>problems sound-wise).
well, that depends.
First, will the break room above *ever* be occupied when the studio below
is in use? If not (ever is a long time), then no problem.
If yes, the appropriate sound treatment is in order.
Now, you say above that it'll be on 2 acres, and in the woods.
that implies the possibility of less noise and farther away neighbors.
If that is true, then you may have hoped to make the facility slightly less
sound-proofed. Of course, occupying the room above during recording kinda
throws that idea out the window.
Additionally, if you have no nearby neighbors, what about tomorrow?
I live on a very quiet 5 acres, with few neighbors, but a new one moved in
recently.
Out here, a new neighbor means bull-dozing, pnumatic hammers, and such.
a bit more noise than the city neighbor's moving van.
So, consider these when you decide to skimp.
Nothing like shutting down because of noise for 6 months to 2 years while
the new construction goes on.
And of course, that might not be tomorrow, it might be 3-5 years before
the sounds start. I just received notice from the county that the 100
wooded acres next to my 5 is going to be logged this summer.
now i have chain saw noises to contend with.
***never skimp on studio sound design because you're in a quiet area.
steve
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Studio floor plans
Hello,
>I have been quielty monitoring the group for quite some time now...
>collecting as much info as I can. I recently purchased a 2 acre lot & have
>kept half of it wooded so that I can build a modest recording studio
>"hidden" in the woods.
Nice!
> I figure it will be about the size of a 2 car
>garage (maybe slightly bigger/smaller), possibly with a room above that
>will function as a "break area" with TV, couch, etc (Does that pose any
>problems sound-wise).
well, that depends.
First, will the break room above *ever* be occupied when the studio below
is in use? If not (ever is a long time), then no problem.
If yes, the appropriate sound treatment is in order.
Now, you say above that it'll be on 2 acres, and in the woods.
that implies the possibility of less noise and farther away neighbors.
If that is true, then you may have hoped to make the facility slightly less
sound-proofed. Of course, occupying the room above during recording kinda
throws that idea out the window.
Additionally, if you have no nearby neighbors, what about tomorrow?
I live on a very quiet 5 acres, with few neighbors, but a new one moved in
recently.
Out here, a new neighbor means bull-dozing, pnumatic hammers, and such.
a bit more noise than the city neighbor's moving van.
So, consider these when you decide to skimp.
Nothing like shutting down because of noise for 6 months to 2 years while
the new construction goes on.
And of course, that might not be tomorrow, it might be 3-5 years before
the sounds start. I just received notice from the county that the 100
wooded acres next to my 5 is going to be logged this summer.
now i have chain saw noises to contend with.
***never skimp on studio sound design because you're in a quiet area.
steve
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by archive » Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:54 am
From: SRF7@a...
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
In a message dated 1/19/01 6:58:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jshort@t... writes:
> I have been quielty monitoring the group for quite some time now...
> collecting as much info as I can. I recently purchased a 2 acre lot & have
> kept half of it wooded so that I can build a modest recording studio
> "hidden" in the woods. I figure it will be about the size of a 2 car
> garage (maybe slightly bigger/smaller), possibly with a room above that
> will function as a "break area" with TV, couch, etc (Does that pose any
> problems sound-wise). I am just now starting to do the design and was
>
> >> wondering if anyone has some studio floor plans or knows of a good website
>> where I can look at plans. I have found a few websites, but would like to
>> see more. BTW, I play guitar, keyboards, & hope to take up drums soon...
>> so I would like to design my studio accordingly. Any help with the
>> location of "generic" plans or floor plan suggestions would be very helpful
>> & greatly appreciated.
>
Yes .... Build your tracking room for drums and everything else will be
possible. You want a tracking room with about 6,000 cubic feet of volume
minimum to allow you to spread the room modes out and have a reasonable room
time. Assuming some form of vaulted ceiling and a 10' plate height on the
walls you'll end up with about a 12' average ceiling height (more would be
better but lets be reasonable). 6000 divided by 12 = 500 sf of floor space
for the tracking room ... you also need to design room dimensions so that
room modes are irregular (I did something like 20' wide x 27'-6" deep x
12'-6" avg. height for about 6,800 cubic feet of volume).
You'd be nuts not to build a control room, a bathroom, and a mechanical
closet (we'll skip the walk-in- cooler for the beer kegs and the deck with
the hot-tub for now). A control room needs about 12' behind your head to the
wall so that refelcted sound does smear into the initial sound .. diffusers
can help but good old brute force physics works better (in other words both
distance and diffusion work best together). I did a control room
approximately 14' wide by 22'-6" deep and it works great ... I wouldn't go
smaller if you can avoid it. If neccessary skimp on finishes, and get the
square footages, you can add hardwood floors after you win the lottery. A
control room this size also leaves lots of room for a work space (I have a
guitar work bench) and space for furniture so that you can work and socialize
with your hairy friends/customers.
Bottom line I say yuou need a minimum of 1,000 SF. If you have access to
ACAD 14 I can send you the plans I drew up ... has way more STC in the
exterior walls than you might need and includes a bed/bath/closet which
connected it to the existing house ... but you could just erase/alter that
stuff.
You also might want to buy a few books .... Everest's book on budget studio
designs would be a reasonable place to start. A few bucks spent on a
professional review and tweak job up front, while its all still on paper
(once you have a sketch and think you know what you want) would be money well
spent.
Scott R. Foster
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
In a message dated 1/19/01 6:58:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jshort@t... writes:
> I have been quielty monitoring the group for quite some time now...
> collecting as much info as I can. I recently purchased a 2 acre lot & have
> kept half of it wooded so that I can build a modest recording studio
> "hidden" in the woods. I figure it will be about the size of a 2 car
> garage (maybe slightly bigger/smaller), possibly with a room above that
> will function as a "break area" with TV, couch, etc (Does that pose any
> problems sound-wise). I am just now starting to do the design and was
>
> >> wondering if anyone has some studio floor plans or knows of a good website
>> where I can look at plans. I have found a few websites, but would like to
>> see more. BTW, I play guitar, keyboards, & hope to take up drums soon...
>> so I would like to design my studio accordingly. Any help with the
>> location of "generic" plans or floor plan suggestions would be very helpful
>> & greatly appreciated.
>
Yes .... Build your tracking room for drums and everything else will be
possible. You want a tracking room with about 6,000 cubic feet of volume
minimum to allow you to spread the room modes out and have a reasonable room
time. Assuming some form of vaulted ceiling and a 10' plate height on the
walls you'll end up with about a 12' average ceiling height (more would be
better but lets be reasonable). 6000 divided by 12 = 500 sf of floor space
for the tracking room ... you also need to design room dimensions so that
room modes are irregular (I did something like 20' wide x 27'-6" deep x
12'-6" avg. height for about 6,800 cubic feet of volume).
You'd be nuts not to build a control room, a bathroom, and a mechanical
closet (we'll skip the walk-in- cooler for the beer kegs and the deck with
the hot-tub for now). A control room needs about 12' behind your head to the
wall so that refelcted sound does smear into the initial sound .. diffusers
can help but good old brute force physics works better (in other words both
distance and diffusion work best together). I did a control room
approximately 14' wide by 22'-6" deep and it works great ... I wouldn't go
smaller if you can avoid it. If neccessary skimp on finishes, and get the
square footages, you can add hardwood floors after you win the lottery. A
control room this size also leaves lots of room for a work space (I have a
guitar work bench) and space for furniture so that you can work and socialize
with your hairy friends/customers.
Bottom line I say yuou need a minimum of 1,000 SF. If you have access to
ACAD 14 I can send you the plans I drew up ... has way more STC in the
exterior walls than you might need and includes a bed/bath/closet which
connected it to the existing house ... but you could just erase/alter that
stuff.
You also might want to buy a few books .... Everest's book on budget studio
designs would be a reasonable place to start. A few bucks spent on a
professional review and tweak job up front, while its all still on paper
(once you have a sketch and think you know what you want) would be money well
spent.
Scott R. Foster
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From: SRF7@a...
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
In a message dated 1/19/01 7:14:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,
acushing@c... writes:
> My story is quite similar (except I'm a drummer who'd like to learn guitar,
> bass, & keys). I've got a program called Sierra Home Architect
> http://www.sierrahome.com/software/catalog/homedesign/ that's easy to use,
> and has been a great tool in designing the studio i'd like to build. The
> software's only about sixty bucks, and can take a lot of guesswork out of
> designing a space. Of course, it's meant for desiging a home, so it doesn't
> give youi things like double-wall construction. but it will sure help with
> your layout and conceptualization. It's way cheaper than back-and-forthing
> with an architect.
>
> <!-- aaron cushing -- digital media designer
> http://www.crescentstudio.com -->
That's a great / cheap way to get started ... beats the heck out of sketching
on graph paper (though you can get a lot done that way too). Will it import
files?
Scott R. Foster
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
In a message dated 1/19/01 7:14:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,
acushing@c... writes:
> My story is quite similar (except I'm a drummer who'd like to learn guitar,
> bass, & keys). I've got a program called Sierra Home Architect
> http://www.sierrahome.com/software/catalog/homedesign/ that's easy to use,
> and has been a great tool in designing the studio i'd like to build. The
> software's only about sixty bucks, and can take a lot of guesswork out of
> designing a space. Of course, it's meant for desiging a home, so it doesn't
> give youi things like double-wall construction. but it will sure help with
> your layout and conceptualization. It's way cheaper than back-and-forthing
> with an architect.
>
> <!-- aaron cushing -- digital media designer
> http://www.crescentstudio.com -->
That's a great / cheap way to get started ... beats the heck out of sketching
on graph paper (though you can get a lot done that way too). Will it import
files?
Scott R. Foster
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From: "Aaron Cushing" <acushing@c...>
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
I don't think it can import stuff, though that would certainly be nice. It's
designed as a toy for people who would like to build someday and don't know
where to start. That's me. AutoCad would be great, but the learning curve is
rather steep. This app is "drag a room; size it; plop on some doors &
windows; slap in some furniture, decorations, and room finishes; and you're
done." It does a 2D floorplan in one window, and a 3D camera-view in an
adjacent window. It's really quite slick for sixty bucks!
<!-- aaron cushing -- digital media designer
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Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
I don't think it can import stuff, though that would certainly be nice. It's
designed as a toy for people who would like to build someday and don't know
where to start. That's me. AutoCad would be great, but the learning curve is
rather steep. This app is "drag a room; size it; plop on some doors &
windows; slap in some furniture, decorations, and room finishes; and you're
done." It does a 2D floorplan in one window, and a 3D camera-view in an
adjacent window. It's really quite slick for sixty bucks!
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http://www.crescentstudio.com -->
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From: jshort@t...
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
Scott - I do not have access to ACAD 14. Any chance you could export your
floor plan to a gif or something else so I could have a look?
Thanks for your input!
Jonathan
Thanks to everybody else who has responded so far!!!!!!!
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
Scott - I do not have access to ACAD 14. Any chance you could export your
floor plan to a gif or something else so I could have a look?
Thanks for your input!
Jonathan
Thanks to everybody else who has responded so far!!!!!!!
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From: "Danny Stinnett" <danny@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2001 1:29 am
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
Hi, Some really good tips here. Enjoy listening in. Large is definitely
better...and I second that "don't skimp because you're in a quiet area". The
area I am in, just had a freeway come through, and now there selling
property all around for Wal-Mart's etc....Another thing, with the high
ceilings, you have more flexibility as far as sound proofing also. If you
have single walls and a high ceiling, you could later on, if necessary, add
a room within that room to increase your soundproofing. Good luck and best
wishes. Danny
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2001 1:29 am
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
Hi, Some really good tips here. Enjoy listening in. Large is definitely
better...and I second that "don't skimp because you're in a quiet area". The
area I am in, just had a freeway come through, and now there selling
property all around for Wal-Mart's etc....Another thing, with the high
ceilings, you have more flexibility as far as sound proofing also. If you
have single walls and a high ceiling, you could later on, if necessary, add
a room within that room to increase your soundproofing. Good luck and best
wishes. Danny
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From: "Carlos Assale" <c.assale@t...>
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2001 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
Dear Scott:
I've been quietly monitoring the conversation (and learning lots!!!!) about
studio construction, because I'm really interested in build one in a new house
(I'm from Brazil.). Please, if possible, send the AutoCad files you gently
offered.
Thanx...
Carlos Assale
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2001 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [acoustics] Studio floor plans
Dear Scott:
I've been quietly monitoring the conversation (and learning lots!!!!) about
studio construction, because I'm really interested in build one in a new house
(I'm from Brazil.). Please, if possible, send the AutoCad files you gently
offered.
Thanx...
Carlos Assale
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