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Postby Eric.Desart » Mon May 31, 2004 11:25 pm

Dan,

WMF Windows Metafile format
EMF Enhanced Metafile Format

EMF is the enhanced version of WMF resulting in significant smaller files.
It came out with (can't remember, think with windows 95)
The advantage is that lots of drawing and architectural programs can directly export to one of both or both (as e.g. Paul)
They also can be edited as vector formats

An ASHAMED Windows user :):)
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Postby Paul Woodlock » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:00 am

Eric.Desart wrote:....An ASHAMED Windows user :):)


No SHAME here! :) :):)

Windows XP is fine. Mac's are fine.

There's been enough Mac v. Pc wars over at the Cubase Forums to last a lifetime.

IMHO OS's are boring, and simply serve as a shell for the interesting stuff.

hehe


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Postby tonio » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:19 am

I agree with Paul here:)
BTW I tried to use Eric's RMC on my MAC, and it was converting a bunch of metafiles, then said it could be read only:( Why can't we all be the same!!
Guess I just have to use Scott's Mission Impossible method he he
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Paul Woodlock wrote:
Eric.Desart wrote:....An ASHAMED Windows user :):)


No SHAME here! :) :):)

Windows XP is fine. Mac's are fine.

There's been enough Mac v. Pc wars over at the Cubase Forums to last a lifetime.

IMHO OS's are boring, and simply serve as a shell for the interesting stuff.

hehe


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Postby Eric.Desart » Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:26 am

Hi-Hi

tonio wrote:I agree with Paul here:)
BTW I tried to use Eric's RMC on my MAC, and it was converting a bunch of metafiles, then said it could be read only:( Why can't we all be the same!!
:):)


But we can all be the same. Very Easy.
Just buy Windows !!!!!!!

Or I buy MAC and all you guys learn to speak Dutch :):)

Eric

Sorry Dan, just teasing.
I started working with Windows, not because I studied it, or compared it, but because everyone I know here did. It's that simple. :):):)
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Postby Dan Nelson » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:07 am

Eric.Desart wrote:Hi-Hi

tonio wrote:I agree with Paul here:)
BTW I tried to use Eric's RMC on my MAC, and it was converting a bunch of metafiles, then said it could be read only:( Why can't we all be the same!!
:):)


But we can all be the same. Very Easy.
Just buy Windows !!!!!!!

Or I buy MAC and all you guys learn to speak Dutch :):)

Eric

Sorry Dan, just teasing.
I started working with Windows, not because I studied it, or compared it, but because everyone I know here did. It's that simple. :):):)


The RMC does work on the OSX version of excel it may crash excel converting the metafiles but on the second time it will go all the way. The only problem I really have is Mac and Windows fonts render a little different so some of the text gets cut off.
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Postby Eric.Desart » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:31 am

Hi Dan

I have in fact very long already a 90 % finished new edition of this file, which can directly export pictures in several formats in custom defined sizes, without this wood stuff (going to remove that).

One can also show the freqs in numbers on the pictures for all modes where there is physical space to put them. The border can be straight, round or none.

If you once should find the time, can you sent me some more GIF pictures of different dialogs?

If I find the logic and measures for those MAC fonts and line spacing versus Windows I can take that better into acount when (re)designing them.

The picture below shows how it looks in Windows 2000.

Just example pictures auto generated by the Exel file:
Note they CLEARLY show the importance of the other non-axial modes.
Sepmeyer USED them to get to his room ratios.

Have those pictures of about any published Room Ratio (even in animation) based on same fixed room volume.
I'll upload them when finalizing those files.

Eric

PS : Dan I notice that the picture show in reversed order. The 1st entered remains at the bottom (reversed sort order versus entering = bit difficult).
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Postby Eric.Desart » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:40 am

Tiens

Dan, that's strange.
By comparing the pictures you get a complete different ratio for this dialog.

In fact they are programmed NOT to be automatically resized.
Width and Height are set in points.
The position of every individual object is defined in points versus the dialog boundaries.

It looks as Mac interpret those points differently???
Mac extends the width, but simultaniously shrinks the height.
So the characters and line spacing looks as a secundary problem.
Mac doesn't accept the main layout of the dialog.

Have you an idea how Mac interprets such measures?
I can check in my program if the file is running in Mac or Windows and redirect to whatever.

But then I at least must understand what Mac does in order to know what and how to adjust.....

Magic ...............................................

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Postby Dan Nelson » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:48 am

I set the view at 150 percent is that what you a talking about? I will look at it more in few days. I need catch up on some sleep.

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Postby Eric.Desart » Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:07 am

Dan,

You can compare with my picture.
That's exactly how it appears in my Excel (no scaling)
This is Windows & Excel 2000 so not the XP look.

Eric

Edited: Sorry this was Excel 97, but checked again in 2000:
Layout is EXACTLY the same only XL 2000 uses a softer gray shade. Rest picture EXACT identical.
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Postby Eric.Desart » Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:14 am

Dan,

If you should Email some dialog pictures, don't resize them so I can see exactly what you see in Excel.
Gif is better than JPG for this.

Maybe it's confusing but my picture (dialog) is what my Excel shows versus your picture.
Both are EXACT the same dialogs based on the same instructions.
The difference between those pictures is exclusively caused by Excel and/or the operating system (not my code) how they graphically handle the same code.


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